Originally by: Gramtar

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Edited by: Gramtar on 12/02/2009 16:28:49
Edited by: Gramtar on 12/02/2009 16:27:49

Originally by: GM Spiral

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You can find the updated article in our knowledge base here

This affects the alliance KenZoku in such a manner that in any systems which their member corporations have control towers where they were previously contributing to Band of Brother sovereignty, the towers now contribute to KenZoku sovereignty. They start claiming at sovereignty level 1 and have to hold out the timers as described in the article. All previous sovereignty levels attributed to Band of Brothers is permanently lost.

All in all, this is derived from a mistake in the review of a knowledge base article. As a side note we do welcome all and any pointers regarding errors or mistakes made in our knowledge base articles.

If there are still any concerns regarding this then please by all means ask.

Best regards,
Senior GM Spiral
EVE Online Customer Support Team

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Can this mechanic be used to legitimately bypass the 5 tower per days limit currently placed on alliances engaged in "POS spam" (typically only in high moon count systems)?

For example:
1. System held by Alliance A has 80 moons, and that alliance has 6 towers present holding Sov.

2. Alliance B attacks, and starts placing towers at the rate of 5 per day. Alliance A "counterspams" to stay ahead in the Sov count until Alliance A has 21 towers and Alliance B has 20, after 4 days.

3. Enter Alliance C, who are allies with Alliance B. Alliance B has an alt logistics corp within Alliance C, and drops 3 towers. Target system moon count is now:
Alliance A: 21 towers
Alliance B: 20 towers
Alliance C: 5 towers

4. 7 downtimes pass. Alt corp in Alliance C leaves that alliance, and joins Alliance B as soon as it's able (24 hours, 1 downtime, whatever that limit is).

5. Next downtime Target system moon count is:
Alliance A: 21 towers
Alliance B: 23 towers

Alliance B holds sov, and Alliance A is now unable to "counterspam" to regain sov.

Question 1: To reiterate: Is this a legitimate tactic to bypass the 5 tower per day per alliance limit? Can alliance A petition alliance B or alliance C for exploit?

Question 2: If this is not a legitimate tactic, what would CCP's response be if this were employed? Remove towers dropped by the alt-logistics corp?

Question 3: If this is not a legitimate tact, and if Alliance A previously held Sov 2, 3, or 4, would that Sov level be reinstated at the next downtime?

Question 4: If this is not a legitimate tactic, and if the corp that dropped towers as a member of Alliance C weren't just a shell, alt-logistics corp, would that change the legitimacy? If so, what are the membership requirements? 100 characters? 200 characters?

Question 5: What if a corp in Alliance A left that alliance, and joined alliance B, essentially "defecting" from A to B? Could alliance A petition that to regain sov?

I can think of many other scenarios. It ultimately boils down to, can alt-corps, or corps within other alliances be used to bypass the 5 tower per day per alliance drop limit?

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